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Freak
09-18-2007, 07:36 AM
I have this card on my newegg wish list,hmm.I recieved this e-mail today from my bud who just built a new quadcore.Think I'll find a different vid card.


I really had not played ut much on the new machine been tinkering with
settings and stuff.
I just checked frame rates in a few maps not really playing them.
Yesterday I played for awhile and began to notice bad "hitching" with
high
frame rate in a few maps.
Maps that played smooth on my old machine at slower frame rate.
HMMM seems strange ... high frame rate and bad hitching don't seem like
that
could happen.
So I Googled "8800 hitching" and got more than I had expected.

Check this 7 page discussion worth reading
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904 (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23904)

Bad deal not sure yet what I'll do.
Seems no problems with UT in Vista . LOL. Oh the irony of it all!!
Gonna try an older driver later today.

HTM~ETBABY187
09-18-2007, 09:42 AM
i havent had any problems with mine whats so evea but my pc is vista and i have dual core intel and my card is the 8800 gfx oc

HTM|Minion
09-18-2007, 10:25 AM
ATI ftw! :anal:

EDIT.. I must point out that it is a known fact that if you run your rig with the framerate uncapped and enter a server that has it's framerate capped at 90 fps you will have hitching. Tell him to verify his framerate cap "MaxClientFrameRate=90.000000" in UT2004.ini. This number can be altered and can cause undesireable results online.

Freak
09-18-2007, 12:23 PM
ATI ftw! :anal:

EDIT.. I must point out that it is a known fact that if you run your rig with the framerate uncapped and enter a server that has it's framerate capped at 90 fps you will have hitching. Tell him to verify his framerate cap "MaxClientFrameRate=90.000000" in UT2004.ini. This number can be altered and can cause undesireable results online.

He hasn't had this machine online yet,this is whats happening on instant action.He's having wireless broadband installed.

HTM|Minion
09-18-2007, 12:46 PM
He hasn't had this machine online yet,this is whats happening on instant action. oh...that sucks then, I can get 500+fps in instant action and it's smooth as glass.

Freak
09-18-2007, 01:19 PM
Real heartbreaker,he has this machine running at 3.6gh.As you probablly figured by now it's the Gen.He gets this wireless going we'll be seeing alot of him.Show him the HTM advantage.lol:respect:

HTM~ZenEye
09-18-2007, 01:33 PM
Sounds like he's pushing UT to it's limits. You can have trouble with extremely new hardware just as with extremely old hardware. Min didn't you have a driver prob at first too? I liken it to putting a REALLY big engine on a frame that cant handle it, sooner or later your gonna twist the frame or crack the motor mounts lol.

That frame rate thing that min talked about is a good idea cuz when you do instant action your essentially running a local server.

Freak
09-18-2007, 01:53 PM
Sounds like he's pushing UT to it's limits. You can have trouble with extremely new hardware just as with extremely old hardware. Min didn't you have a driver prob at first too? I liken it to putting a REALLY big engine on a frame that cant handle it, sooner or later your gonna twist the frame or crack the motor mounts lol.

That frame rate thing that min talked about is a good idea cuz when you do instant action your essentially running a local server.


But you can push the limits as long as you run vista? Sounds like nvidia and microsoft made some deal.This is bad as the no directx10 for xp.

HTM~ZenEye
09-18-2007, 01:59 PM
nvidia and Microsoft... no ya think? Thats exactly what is going to happen, you wont see full performance or quality with a dx10 card unless you have dx10 lol. They want you to spend money. sheety.

HTM|Minion
09-18-2007, 02:02 PM
I'm glad I waited and picked up the ATI card...I had no idea Nvidia was having these issues. Needless to say I would have been pissed.:minigun:

HTM|Minus
09-18-2007, 07:59 PM
so no internet yet? no updates?

HTM|Minion
09-19-2007, 08:21 AM
You know as technology improves sometimes things have to be dropped to make room for the new. I'm sure the 8800 is a marvelous card and will shine it's brightest in the year to come.

What worries me is that OUR game was one that was on the "we can drop this one" list. I know she's getting older, and there is a new lady on the horizon... but she's still our girl.

Hopefully public outcry will force a driver change that will better handle the dynamic lighting... we'll see. Until then buy ATI. ;)

Freak
09-19-2007, 10:12 AM
Isn't ut3 still dx9? Seems all the nvidia high end cards are all dx10.Ati has several high end dx9 cards.I smell some sneaky bostage's here.Who's taken the payolla?

HTM|Minion
09-19-2007, 10:29 AM
Isn't ut3 still dx9? Seems all the nvidia high end cards are all dx10.Ati has several high end dx9 cards.I smell some sneaky bostage's here.Who's taken the payolla?

The game developers will be the ones to push it across the DX10 line. But doing so now would be a bad idea...too many players out there are still restricted to DX9 by thier rigs. I have heard no formal answer regarding UT3 and DX10, as I know of know it will be DX9. Which makes you wonder if it's really a good idea to buy a DX10 card now? MY ATI is DX10 compatable, but I doubt it will process any DX10 stuff for quite a while. Especially if it has to see a vista logo to run it.

HTM~ZenEye
09-19-2007, 11:23 AM
If you have dx10 you will see dx10 enhancements, the game will know what you have when you install it. if you have dx9 then you will see dx9 level stuff. dx 10 is the high end right now, epic has always been good about being backward compatible, I mean christ, ut2k4 will run on anything with a halfway decent video card and 512mb ram lol.

Microsoft and Sony may have lots of money but the bulk of your revenue is coming from sales, like min said there is still a huge dx9 market so it makes sense that dx9 will be supported and dx10/physx will be optional installs or mods.

HTM~ETBABY187
09-19-2007, 09:05 PM
i think that they will make it dx 10 to make everyone upgrade :)

HTM|Minion
09-20-2007, 09:39 AM
i think that they will make it dx 10 to make everyone upgrade :)

I can play ut2004 another 4 years if it means I need Vista.

G-REX
09-20-2007, 10:05 AM
First off thanks for this thread, I have had these problems with my comp since I first built it. That Nvidia thread is a big help. I was just going to live with the studders as weak as it is on my system, but hiding weapons is said to be a fix and a very simple fix. I am running an 8800GTS-320 with WinXP. I doubt that nVidia will ever fix this problem on a dying game and a dying OS.

HTM|Minion
09-20-2007, 11:14 AM
Hi G-REX, welcome to H-Town!

I have used "hidden" weapons for the last couple of years... I personally can't play with the weapon in front of me any more. It's a good way to learn to watch your crosshair. :)

Speaking of which i highly recommend the "KAusV8" crosshair pack located here (http://www.h-townmadness.com/FileServer/index.php?dir=Crosshairs/&file=KAusV8.zip) as they have some awesome "animated" crosshairs that show well against any background color.

G-REX
10-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Thanks Minion, I will have to try those crosshairs out. :) So far just using the default crosshairs has been working out pretty well. Between that and having a huge non-transparent weapon bar works alright for now. Every once in a while I will miss a keystroke and have the wrong weapon out though.

It is very nice having maps run smooth as glass now,... for a change. :D