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Freak
01-28-2008, 12:36 PM
Gen sent this to me for an illustration of tearing.This is what happened to him when he first put his new rig together,v-sync helped but still had to make some other changes to cap his fps.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/htmfreak/simulatedtearing.jpg
HTM~ZenEye
01-28-2008, 01:21 PM
wow thats bad.
HTM~Night_Ranger
01-28-2008, 01:39 PM
I've seen worse in older games (had to disable crossfire), nothing like that in 2k4.
Was this on-line or off-line?
Freak
01-28-2008, 01:53 PM
Not sure,just asked him to send it again to show Eye.Really fps higher than refresh rate of monitor is wasted,this was just to show how bad it can get.lol I believe as long as you don't drop under the refresh rate or it doesn't stay there your doing fine.
HTM~ZenEye
01-28-2008, 02:37 PM
300 fps in 2k4 lol. yeah i do believe there is such a thing as matching the hardware to the software. 2k4 might not be able to handle his system. 300 fps tho wow.
HTM~Night_Ranger
01-28-2008, 04:09 PM
300 fps in 2k4 lol. yeah i do believe there is such a thing as matching the hardware to the software. 2k4 might not be able to handle his system. 300 fps tho wow.
I've hit higher than that, that's why I asked if it was off-line or not.
Give the new rig a run at 2k4, I think you'll be surprised.;)
HTM|Minion
01-28-2008, 04:23 PM
Yeah...I was hitting 350-375 easy on Sanctuary when it was uncapped.
Freak
01-28-2008, 05:05 PM
Gen was complaining about the tearing on that map 1 morning when we were playing.After that we both started reading up on it and v-sync.I'm not sure when he took that screenie but he sent it to show me how bad it got on his new rig.That map seemed to be the extreme for tearing.Never liked that map anyway.lol Everyone wants an extreme frame rate but from what I've read it really does no good if it's beyond the monitors capabilities.I want a new monitor when I do upgrade but I'm not willing to give up my refresh rate of 100 on this old crt.I hoping the price will come down on the high end monitors by the time I rebuild and they fix all those mb issues.lol Asus you suck! hehe
HTM~Night_Ranger
01-29-2008, 08:21 AM
Next generation lcd monitors are going to be led back-lit and have refresh rates of 120 hz. (just like the newer HD tv's)
I couldn't wait that long for a new build tho'. ;)
I haven't had any problems with this MSI board, 'course I didn't have any problems with the Asus board I put in my nephews pc either.
HTM|Minion
01-29-2008, 08:34 AM
Those new Sony 120hz flat panel TV's are wicked!
HTM~Night_Ranger
01-29-2008, 08:42 AM
Those new Sony 120hz flat panel TV's are wicked!
Yeah, whenever they release a 30" wide screen monitor that is led back lit and 120 hz I'm gonna have a hard time leavin' my credit card alone. *cringes at thought of price*
Freak
01-29-2008, 12:30 PM
Next generation lcd monitors are going to be led back-lit and have refresh rates of 120 hz. (just like the newer HD tv's)
I couldn't wait that long for a new build tho'. ;)
I haven't had any problems with this MSI board, 'course I didn't have any problems with the Asus board I put in my nephews pc either.
I just see all the probs peeps here have had with asus boards,and after that stupid card I bought for an upgrade I'm ati shy.lol As far as the monitor I'll wait if thats what it takes.
HTM~ZenEye
01-29-2008, 12:36 PM
luck of the draw really, whos to say you wont get a bad card from wutever manufacturererer you buy from. Just do your homework and you'll be ok :).
Freak
01-29-2008, 12:42 PM
luck of the draw really, whos to say you wont get a bad card fropm wutever manufacturererer you buy from. Just do your homework and you'll be ok :).
Card worked fine for OT,No matter what I did the fps were 1/2 of what I get on my 7600gt.There had to be a conflict with something on my machine,I've always had nvidia & amd.Slap the card in update drivers and set to performance,done deal.
HTM|Minion
01-29-2008, 12:57 PM
I had issues on this pc once when my ATI card died and I had to grab an emergency Nvidia 5200 from the local shop. I had to completely remove ALL traces of the ATI software to get the 5200 to work right, then when I switched back to the current 9800 AIW it was a nightmare getting all the Nvidia stuff out before this card worked properly.
I bet you just missed a file or two somewhere freak, that 1900 should have worked great on your rig. It does say alot about owner loyalty though..switch brands and pay the price. ;)
Freak
01-29-2008, 02:57 PM
I had issues on this pc once when my ATI card died and I had to grab an emergency Nvidia 5200 from the local shop. I had to completely remove ALL traces of the ATI software to get the 5200 to work right, then when I switched back to the current 9800 AIW it was a nightmare getting all the Nvidia stuff out before this card worked properly.
I bet you just missed a file or two somewhere freak, that 1900 should have worked great on your rig. It does say alot about owner loyalty though..switch brands and pay the price. ;)
I removed all the nvidia crap I could find,must have been more lurking somewhere.Whats weird I cleared all the ati crap out then reinstalled my 7600 and it worked better than it ever has,well you saw my fps posts and thats not bad out of an antique.lol Thats the reason I've held off on a rebuild,hard to explain to the little woman you need to rebuild when she sees me playing ut3 all the time.May havta get out the lighter fluid and do a little self destruct help.lol
HTM~ZenEye
01-29-2008, 03:38 PM
i bet that physx card is helping a lot freak. They make an agp8x version of the hd2600xt cards too.
Freak
01-29-2008, 03:47 PM
I had this card.
HIS Hightech H195PRQT512DDAN-R-V2 Radeon X1950PRO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 8X HDCP Ready IceQ3 Turbo Video Card
Physx card really did help,I bought it before the ati card.
HTM|Minion
01-31-2008, 03:28 PM
Thats the reason I've held off on a rebuild,hard to explain to the little woman you need to rebuild when she sees me playing ut3 all the time.
I have a tip that may help...
Take this picture (http://h-townmadness.com/images/bsod.jpg) and make it your screensaver. Then when you wife walks by curse alot and say "damn it....it did it again!"
Worked for a freind of mine. ;)
Freak
01-31-2008, 03:29 PM
I have a tip that may help...
Take this picture (http://h-townmadness.com/images/bsod.jpg) and make it your screensaver. Then when you wife walks by curse alot and say "damn it....it did it again!"
Worked for a freind of mine. ;)
Now thats an idea! Gonna give that a try. lol
HTM~ZenEye
01-31-2008, 04:15 PM
genius
cUnNiNg_StUnTs
02-02-2008, 09:57 AM
The default Microsoft driver for nVidia bors will do that. Download the driver from nVidia
Freak
02-02-2008, 11:43 AM
The default Microsoft driver for nVidia bors will do that. Download the driver from nVidia
That was with the nvidia driver.
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